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  1. Wonderful to hear a new member speak this way. ""They always respond to better upstream electronics"" , ""give them the room they deserve and all the unbridaled power they can take."" Those are some truly excellent words and a mind-set to live by! Some folks are not concerned with such things and will use lowly receivers and frightfully low power amplification while not paying any heed to placement and other majorly important factors. Better quality input sources are pivotal as is the capability of higher 'head-room' afforded by high power. Separates and high power afford the most flexibility and render the best sound overall. Couple that to a concerted effort in correct room placement and one can be closer to the 'real-thing'. P.S. AR surround a wonderful experiment and facts that you've presented at the onset here. I'm not sure how I missed your original post. I was probably listening to music.
  2. I guess in a pinch those above mentioned Connoisseur 50 woofers would work however, there's nothing like the 'real' thing. In my life going back a long distance with AR 12" ownership, for me, there's nothing like the originals, hands down. AR's reputation was built long ago on that 12" woofer and the acoustic-suspension principal. If, I for whatever reason, was forced to own other speakers, I don't know what I'd do with-out that famous 12" AR bass quality. And as I've said on this site before that AR-3a 12" woofer opinion has been with me for 49 years of ownership and I have never changed my reasoning. I seek no other brand of woofer and have no intentions of ever doing so. How's that for being set in my ways? To the 'OP'; you have to ask yourself, 'why did I purchase these speakers in the first place?' One of the main reasons I bought my AR-3a's in late 1971 was because I had prior read so many articles and test reports about how good their bass response actually was. How they challenged and out did speakers many times their size. How uncolored their bass, mid and higher frequency response were so accurate. Happily, I was pleased upon purchasing them and have never thought otherwise. I say; why challenge greatness? FM
  3. I can understand having lasagna on the mind but, what compels a person to think those cones will move at all? I sure hope these are not yours ra.ra. At least when I used rubber cement, my cones were able to vibrate. All in all, at this late stage vintage AR speakers are like high maintenance, needy old cars. Last refoam job I did on my LST's have lasted since 2013-14, still have my fingers crossed though and knock on veneered wood. I have found the P.E. to be very good and I've read somewhere that today's manufacturers are using special additives to prolong surround life. P.S. Whatever happened to that vendor who was selling fabric surrounds? These were brought up here a number of years ago and then the conversation faded away like my old surrounds use to do.
  4. Ah.. yous guys have it easy these days. Way back in 1989 when I first set up a single set of AR-LST's, I was faced with the seemingly unsolvable problem of deteriorated foam surrounds. And just like the example shown above I attempted to seal the surrounds with masking tape which only lasted for a short listening sessions of reduced bass until I had to re-tape as it were. Then a bright light shown and an epiphany was realized. What if I used drier sheets with graphic-artist's rubber cement? Oh, such joy as I thought I had solved the vexing problem that so desperately needed a solution. At last I was graced with bass again as prior I had to set the tone controls to reduced or no bass so as not to blow the voice-coils. The first session went O.K along with me applying additional rubber cement as I watched the remains of the original foam surrounds flapping away from the cone. And just when I thought I had sealed the surround and was able to operate normally, another wind flapping hole would appear. I can't tell you how many bottles of rubber-cement I had to purchase as repair was an ongoing maintenance chore, I may have caused myself brain damage inhaling the stuff. Then one day in the back of that small little magazine 'Stereofool'" I saw a 1/8 page advert for 'New Foam Surrounds'. A sole proprietor located somewhere in the Carolinas offered a 'you-cut-to-size' foam surround replacement and at a nominal charge. I quickly sent a check in a envelope and with-in less than 2 weeks I had a brand new set of surrounds. I mean to me and I assumed others this was a God send. I swiftly cut the foam to what I estimated was the proper size and with the supplied glue I was back in business of listening with some 'bass' as I so sorely missed doing. Of course these surrounds didn't last for more than a couple of years and by that time other offerings started popping up in ads boasting of "correct-size for your speakers" and by this time I was ready to re-foam all over again. Well that was then and today I still can feel the regret as to why didn't AR realize that at some point owners of their speakers would run into such a problem. Well, that's my story and I'm sticking to it. P.S. DavidR, that's a very funny perception because they do look exactly like lasagna and good lasagna I haven't tasted since my mother passed. And though I've attempted to make them, it just wasn't the same as her's. FM
  5. That 8" seems to have a double roll foam surround also. On my AR-9's the LMR is not ribbed and, utilizes only 4 screws and not 8 as the one in questions here. A holiday mystery and the 'OP' is the only one who will be able to sort this out.
  6. Check the restoration guide, I bet there's nothing like it. I've been staring at AR's fine 12" woofers most of my adult life and have never seen a ribbed one. Could've been a replacement kit? The VC cap looks over-sized also. I've seen horror stories on the auction where some folks can be handy with a hack-saw and will squeeze some no-name junk in place. "Kal87bmw" will have to delve into this mystery. We must consul the AR Gods. RoyC. where you be? It's not like years ago when "sound minded" , "johnieo", "SteveF", "PeteB", "DynacoDan", "Minh", and a few others that were knowledgeable for all those years prior. Now, it's mostly new recruits and learn as you go types. Not that there's anything wrong with that. But, to think my speakers are older than some folks here. P.S. Correction, I have never seen a ribbed AR 12" newer design woofer in all of my adult life.
  7. My recollection is that any 12" AR woofer of the later period do not have ribbed woofers, I may be incorrect though. Are these replacement cones?
  8. There is a separate KLH forum, likely you'd find more advice there.
  9. DaviR, would you think they would be as hearty as the original mids from the 1970's? In my experience, I feel AR's midrange is the best part of the 'AR-sound' besides their 12" woofer. I imagine they'd be manufactured in China as all have since AR went under. P.S. When Mark Levinson came out with his 'LST' he used the standard 4 ohm AR midrange with the metal grill absent as he asked AR to make them that way for him. The second iteration of the M.L. 'LST' used midrange drivers by another manufacturer. FM
  10. And rightly so because I'm more than likely correct. Jeepers, why wouldn't I be correct? I'm about 5 or so hours from Boston, MA., if you ever came to check out 'the system', you'd readily be assured with in the first few seconds of listening.
  11. Ah shucks fellas, that ain't no hole, why that must be black paint, just look at the other side of the speaker. After countless refoam operations I can attest to AR's quick swipe of the black paint brush. Why would there be hole on the masonite, why would there be a hole in the stamped metal frame? And Giorgio AR, you're completely correct about those mids, that's a later AR-11. Though I will admit that I've been staring at AR speakers for so many decades, after a while, it's almost like looking at a black hole. In the immortal words of Stan Laurel and Oliver Hardy in March of the Wooden Soldiers. "Why that's neither pig nor pork, it's beef".
  12. Great Caesar's ghost! Well, I can only imagine the fate of these cabinets. Either way, I can and will revel in the knowledge that four operating cabinets reside in my main system with plans of another system using only two cabinets sometime in the future. E' lei Giorgio, vuoi comprare, si o no? If I were you, being not so far away would buy at least four empty cabinets and get started having major fun. Buy all and sell the rest. At 400 pounds for the lot, it's almost free. FM
  13. It boils down to two things, personal philosophies and personal economics. And in addition to that I always say; “Fore warned, is for armed” It could happen at a time when it’s inconvenient and a hassle (it always is)so, it’s better to have spare drivers on hand so if it happens again, you simply take the short time to grab a spare, pop it in and continue listening. Sure beats locating one for sale, going through the usual problems of waiting and hoping one arrives safely and still not being sure if it’ll work correctly, let alone locating a good one for sale. I’ve been there before and bought/took any chance I had to stock-up and be prepared for the worse. This is why I own multiples of AR drivers and because I have reserved units, I’m never afraid to turn up the volume when needed. As an AR speaker owner going on 49 years now to be exact so, I’ve been there many times before. Of course it depends on one's priorities but, I'm talking about very old, discontinued speakers here. I do agree that in these modern times we live in a ‘consumerist-society’ and it’s certainly different from how I grew-up but, that’s the way it is and in this life time, with-in reason, there’s no sense in denying oneself of what’s available. Many here if not all have more than one set of speakers, it’s what we do out of desire and hobby related necessity. Additionally if you’re enamored as much as I am about these materialistic items, because that’s what they are, their age and scarcity are considerable. Just look at the way their cost has sky-rocketed in this last decade alone. If you want something and can afford it, flaunt it. Life is way too short. What’s that expression when one dies? “He who has the most toys, wins”. P.S. I still have my original “Beatle” boots I bought in 1964 (though feet like ears become bigger the older one becomes) and my original Fender Bassman amplifier I bought new in late 1967 which a year ago I had re-capped. I paid $250. new, boxed for the amplifier in NYC at either “Sam Ash” or “Manny’s” I don’t recall which and in as good condition as mine is, I could easily get $1,000.+ for it, though I will never sell it as I still use today. I thought about buying another but, they're too costly these days and too big in size to have two of them floating around here. P.S. 2 So yeah, I agree, attempt to repair it first but, as I said be prepared to replace it or at least have a spare or two. FM
  14. I would just buy another one, or two or more, it's that easy https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-early-One-AR-2-woofer-alnico-speaker-AR-logo-in-frame-WorkS/392527433381?hash=item5b64754ea5:g:t~kAAOSwrxpdwN~F I have spares of tweeters, midranges, and woofers. In this AR hobby there's no other way to operate. It hinges on how serious one is about their speakers.
  15. Via, vai , lasciami in pace! I'm kidding. My latest acquisition.
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