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  1. frankmarsi

    AR1U question

    Western Electric was an excellent company and goes way back. Innovative, high-quality designs and products was no doubt their operating policy. Of course, I've seen amplifiers, etc made by them but, never heard any. In terms of sound quality, that may be another and subjective topic so many years later. Collector value is high with any of their products, I bet. Most of the very reliable dial-type telephones we all used in this country years ago were made by them for one, additionally they were into the ' high-quality' thing seemingly with every product they made. I could imagine that they had lucrative government contracts also. https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2334524.m570.l1313.TR11.TRC3.A0.H0.XWestern+Electric+.TRS1&_nkw=Western+Electric+&_sacat=293&LH_TitleDesc=0&_sop=10&_osacat=293&_odkw=Western+Electric+speakers&LH_TitleDesc=0 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Electric ""Western Electric Company was an American electrical engineering and manufacturing company that served as the primary supplier to AT&T from 1881 to 1996. The company was responsible for many technological innovations and seminal developments in industrial management.Wikipedia""
  2. frankmarsi

    AR1U question

    Which is actually worth more the Altec or the Western Electric version? I'm curious. A post came up on these on CSP a number of years ago or so. I mentioned in that post that the Staten Island Ferry Terminal was being rebuilt and that the 16 overhead old PA speakers installed circa 1955 probably contained these and that I regretted not going dumpster-diving to retrieve them after they were taken down. https://www.stereophile.com/artdudleylistening/108listen/index.html
  3. frankmarsi

    One owner AR-7 find

    To answer this : ""But why-o-why, pray tell, would anyone be re-foaming 26+ woofers within thirty years? If not a lucrative side business, does this offer a glimpse into the habits of a serial driver abuser? Was this a typo?.....twenty-six, really? "" I own four AR-LST's since '87, in '89 when I did their first refoam, there weren't any surrounds available to me or anywhere that I knew of in NYC but from one guy in the back of stereopile magazine. Those were some of the first available with cut to fit seams. There wasn't pages full of possible options like there is today 30 years later on the auction site or anywhere else. Oh, 'fillet' surrounds, not in the early years. Four LST's X four refoams because the early surrounds available were not of good quality and gave into wear in a short time so, I had to do over four in just a few years time. Then I've purchased spares and refoamed them to have on reserve only after installing them, they were found to be rubbing or the VC was bent by the previous owner's use or, they didn't have full-travel. Then in 2014, there came two AR-9's and they needed six more to be done. So, with over 18 spares in reserve, I've learned to be ready for almost any situation. I've owned AR 12 inch woofers since 1972 and always felt that they are the best for home use. I'm lucky that I purchased mostly all of my used 12 inch AR woofers on the auction site when they were going for $50. a piece.
  4. frankmarsi

    One owner AR-7 find

    ""and you can see the re-foamed woofers have been installed 180° from original position to try to counteract any effects of gravity that may have created spider sag."" ra.ra, I always did the same with the 26+ 3a woofers I did re-foam since 1989. Did it make a difference? Well, I suppose it did, naturally.
  5. frankmarsi

    AR speaker low frequency perspective

    Tom, thanks for setting the record straight......again.
  6. Hold on to that knowledge and don't be swayed by the rash of nincompoops that have ravished the internet and have found a way to also pollute this wonderful site.
  7. "bfastr" Let's hope some will learn from your good example. I've been doing this for decades and I learned early on the basic rules must be adhered to for maximum quality of sound. Yet, some believe they know better than those who've been down this road before and that they can rewrite the basic fundamentals and principles of high fidelity set-up and listening. They're so wrong. What's the expression? "Those who don't learn from history, are condemned to relive the worse aspects of it". Happy listening bfastr, I've got to run along and do some pleasurable work that's actually part of my listening regiment. This week I received approximately 15 vinyl disks that I want to ultrasonically clean. These are some of the best condition used disks I've bought on the bay to date. The selling claim was that they've never been played and they certainly appear as such. Thank goodness there are still honest people in this world. Though, a good cleaning will be the ultimate proof. My way of doing things is to always clean a record before it goes any where near my turntables. Whether they're new or used, it doesn't matter. It makes for better listening and brings one closer to the music in every way. Anyone who says differently is a nincompoop plain and simple. Or perhaps they simply don't fully understand the basics. FM
  8. That's all such good old "Americana" from a time gone by. Everything was for all intents new and wonderful. For the most part, virtues as trustworthiness, decency, and honor were still a common thread. The American population in the early 1950's was half of what it is today.
  9. Wow! I was never aware of those. Though they do have that early '60s brass colored feet/leg sort of look, they seem barely suited for the task. Then again, there's a new trend of placing bookshelf speakers on floors by some folks here so, that photo may do some good as inspiration.
  10. Hi Tom Tyson, I stated the AR speakers were sitting on top of the square box-room, AKA AR demo-room on opposite corners of the box or room. I don't recall them being on stands, although since that was in 1974 so, I do not recall correctly if they were or not. The times I passed by, the speaker's audible level was barely distinguishable from the din. The sound as I recall in no way would've or could've filled that cavernous terminal. My regret was not actually walking into the demo-room because I was usually in a rush as per life's pace in NYC. Sadly, one day when I did have time, the room was gone. However, going out of the west-side doors of the terminal led one directly to West 45th street and there were a couple of Hi-Fi stores in which one could peruse. Walking further west led to the musical instrument store district. Sadly, Manhattan to me as a born there and working there over three quarters of my life has drastically changed. Most, if not all, particular 'districts' such as the flower district which was about 5 square blocks has been reduced to about 2 streets only. The hardware and commercial kitchen district has been reduced to maybe only two blocks if that. Forget Canal Street which held out for decades as another hardware and electrical-parts district which has been reduced to car-stereos and the sale of expired rolls of masking tape. Manufacturing has all but disappeared from that boro and typically all of the countless 'mom & pop' stores of almost every genre are gone. There was a time when every corner you turned would've led to another sort of 'district' with a whole other character and ambience but sadly,, no more. Having been born there and like I said worked the entirety of my adult life there, it has lost all of its attraction for me. It's very sad because NYC was almost in a way of speaking an amusement park of life and in of itself an education by merely walking thru the streets and neighborhoods. One used to be able to find almost any object, any item, any machine, any sort of clothing that was ever made available to the consumer. And although progress is inevitable, I'm saddened and put-off by the changes that have occurred to such an historical place. Now, for veterans of that hell hole like myself have retired and relocated as far away as ideally possible. It has become any amusement park attraction of a different nature for tourists and millennials and others who only have a Hollywood's film visual perception of it. And the folks who partook in building it are mostly all dead by now. My father had worked from 1927 to 1929 as a 'timber-man' in construction for the further extension of subway lines to uptown "Harlem" on 125th Street and Lenox Ave. station till the 'Depression' hit and was forced to find menial work. It's just not what it use to be any longer, and to a born and breed native as myself, I find it uncomfortable and undesirable Luckily, many of the 100+ year old buildings still exist so, if so inclined, a person who enjoys history can still see a number of notable sites. The days of me being a teenager in 1963 to 1968 and going there to see the music-district stores because I was becoming an instrument player, or to stroll comfortably through many of the interesting areas are all but gone. Mostly, the whole place has become so homogenized and gentrified that it has lost all of its original character. In my mind, the death-knell began in the early to mid 1980's. By the early 1990's it was obvious 'Ole NYC' had changed and not for the better. There was a movie called: "Escape from New York ", made in 1980 which I fear may become a reality in the distant future. But hey , that's just one man's opinion after living there for 64 years. I'm sure for an out-of-towner it may still hold a certain allure if for nothing else, the buildings are and will be overwhelming impressive for an out of towner. For me, once I watched that second terrorist plane hit the second tower from the 1800 foot distance from which I was standing, it was sort of the last nail in the coffin. When I felt the ground shake from the south tower collapsing, I felt it was the end of the world. In many ways I still miss the old NYC from my heyday of the 1970's and '80s but, I refuse even to visit. FM
  11. frankmarsi

    Oppening LST Speakers

    There's three types of allen wrenches or keys: 1) American 'SAE' 2) European, 'Metric' 3) British, 'Imperial' I almost went crazy years ago when I first purchased all of my S.M.E. tonearms, while making adjustments with SAE size allen-keys nothing fit. Fearful of stripping a $750. tonearm, I immediately scoured the net/bay. I did some research and found the 'Euro' sizes and they didn't fit correctly either. Fearing I'd ruin these delicate tonearms I researched further and found the British 'Imperial' gauge and suddenly I was making correct adjustments with-out stripping being a fear. Note that the 'Imperial' wrenches do take some searching to acquire. Fortunately, the AR-LST uses the 'American' SAE gauge. And yes, I went through the same problems at first until I turned the knob, only to see a second 'hex' screw almost invisible at first unless, one turns the knob fully and views all sides of the control's shaft and knob. P.S. For all of you vinyl users. When mounting a cartridge in a head-shell, always use 'hex' nut type of fasteners instead of 'slotted' screws even if your cartridge has the more common single screw-in/no nut provisions. It will make cartridge mounting much easier and, will look better also. FM
  12. frankmarsi

    New AR drivers.

    You are correct Gene as I haven't yet attempted to mount them. But when I see how little is actually holding it in place I didn't bother and went about my merry way regretting I bought so many in the first place. Then there's the knowledge that these are $18 dollar tweeters, and that fact makes me wonder if these tweeters can measure up to the AR quality. It's almost like blowing out a quality $300. tire on my car and replacing it with a lesser $100. tire. They're both tires but, the costlier one is definitely better, safer and maintains the ride/handling quality and behavior as the car was designed to have. When I first joined this site in 2004 my questions were about tweeters that would mate well with my LST's. Almost 15 years later choices really haven't been all that plentiful except for used ones. Can anyone report on the 'midwest' versions?
  13. frankmarsi

    New AR drivers.

    The HiVi doesn't fit unless a small adapter ring is used or by hoping the screws used along with some putty seal the hole properly. At $18., it's also the cheapest. Only the AB-tech which is the same as simply's version. Those two and the midwest as the latest choice are all drop-in replacement size.
  14. frankmarsi

    New AR drivers.

    No, I distinctly mentioned each of the three possible candidates of possible tweeter choices. And correct, the HiVi will need an additional ring to allow it to fit in the bigger AR opening whereas the midwest and AB-tech size are a perfect fit. I didn't need any answers, I already have all versions except the midwest tweeters here. And yes, I did mention the AR tweeters having a wide dispersion in which they excel at beyond some others, they just don't have the power handling capabilities. How many quality MC carts have you used and owned because the comments you made are incorrect. The Lyra, Ortofon and ART-9 cartridges I use are some of the quietest cartridges on the market today, especially the Lyra Delos. They're also some of the best trackers. A SUT is needed in using them of course. I have no need to be fashionable in any sense of the word because I believe in moving coils and they were chosen because of their vastly superior sonics and their higher level of realism in addition to a higher level of transparency and better transient response across the entire audio spectrum. Last-nite in fact, I would've listen to my Lyra Kleos past the four hours I did if I didn't have to go out and hunt a turkey down. Sure, some MM's are very good but fail to rival any modern better quality MC in the $1,899.to $4,000. range which is considered a moderate price range as they can sell for much more. If that's what it takes to have my AR speakers sound as good as they possible can and delivery music with maximum realism, with intoxicating transparency and reeling transients, I'm already all for it and pretty much well invested in my moving coil stable of choices that render it. You asked questions, I attempted to offer some answers. Maybe, you already have all of the answers? I didn't have all the answers until after 41 years of using AR speakers from 1971-2 on, at which time in 2013, I finally gave into the maximum enjoyment of using moving coil cartridges. I couldn't even ponder hearing a level of quality as I did so many years ago because experience has taught me that I wanted better. Some folks here proclaim their affections for a vintage AR sound quality that's no doubt pleasing and maybe new to them. I had that same level of quality decades ago as a young man in 1971-2 as I am certainly not new to the AR sound quality. It was time to move-on and improve upon that level of quality in my play-back system for the 2000's. Adding a parametric equalizer and paying careful attention to speaker room placement, using quality interconnects, precise turn table set-up, and maintaining clean vinyl sources coupled with better quality moving coils has allowed me to come even closer to that goal. So, as I said, AR's sound capability is not a new discovery for me as I've enjoyed it for a few decades already. I wanted to bring that quality to its furthest reaches. If you heard my system, you'd agree, I've attained my goals with flying colors.
  15. frankmarsi

    New AR drivers.

    David, I wish I didn't rush and buy those AB-Tech tweeters, which are the same as the OP mentioned. When the HiVi tweeter was announced on this site, I stupidly ran out and bought 21 of those. You must understand that I go back to AR3a's and blowing tweeters so often, AR decided to actually call my speakers in twice for a check-up. After that, they just sent spares in cute little square boxes. It was all done thru the mail with hand written letters. That was in 1972 thru 1975 or so when I simply gave up on those weak tweeters and bought the Micro-Static auxiliary add on tweeters which I still use today as they are seemingly impervious to burn-out with a high-power amplifiers ability that can easily burn-out other tweeters, though of course any speaker can be blown with the power I have on tap. As I mentioned a few months ago, I've had it with easily blown tweeters and invested a nice chunk of change to buy 19 used AR-9 tweeters in hopes that they'll hold up long term. Lately, I've had second thoughts that perhaps they won't so, I continue with the little tweeters from Micro-Static that do hold-up. I've grown so use to them that I'm obviously hesitant to make the change although I have all the spares anyone could ask for. Using a parametric-equalizer also allows me to be more lazy as one can shape the response rather well. I'll go out on a limb and also say that my best two choices in bringing the sound-quality of old AR speakers up to or at least approaching a more accepted current and modern sound quality have been the parametric E.Q. and high quality moving coil cartridges. You see I was there at the tail end sort of speak of the 'Classic-Era' of hi-fi back in the later '60's and early '70s and I refuse to listen to the half-baked, inefficient and reticent sound quality AR tweeters are known for, that's so 50+ years ago. It's easy to see why so many new-comers to this hobby like that sound as that may be a new thing for them but, I've been dealing with it all these years and so it's not new to me. If AR had developed a tweeter that could sustain high power, I'd be satisfied but, that's not the case. Although I enjoy the ability of the AR tweeters in terms of the width of their dispersion field, many folks know they can't handle the power to attain realistic sounding levels. I'm just the opposite regarding the AR-3a type midrange and bass drivers which are my favorites and are very capable drivers. So, before I blow over $1,600. worth of AR-9 used tweeters out, I'll take my time and enjoy the 'little tweeter array that could' as I have been since 1974 when I was forced o purchase them. Come spring time, I may change over the tweeters but, rite-now, I'm in a safe and comfortable-zone with-out fear of turning up the volume.