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If Cizek had more than one model of speakers, then why in the hell are they so hard to find? Where did most of the speaekers end up anyways? I seen a very impressive photo of the dual Cizek subwoofer, on the forums here. Does anyone have one of those? By the way does anyone have a picture of Roy Cizek. Cizek seems like such a mystery to me and I want to know more than what I've read here. Sorry for all of the questions, but I just find Cizek so fascinating.

Sincerely,

Brian

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>If Cizek had more than one model of speakers, then why in the

>hell are they so hard to find? Where did most of the speaekers

>end up anyways? I seen a very impressive photo of the dual

>Cizek subwoofer, on the forums here. Does anyone have one of

>those? By the way does anyone have a picture of Roy Cizek.

>Cizek seems like such a mystery to me and I want to know more

>than what I've read here. Sorry for all of the questions, but

>I just find Cizek so fascinating.

>

>Sincerely,

>Brian

Hi Brian;

If I had not come to this web site, I would never have even heard of Cizek speakers.

From what I have read here, those that own them, cherish them.

Paolo, a valued member, is very likely the most knowledgeable member on Cizek speakers.

He really cherishes his Cizek speakers and has been very helpful in helping both the members and the library with literature.

I feel that he will try to assist you with you questions, if I know Paiolo, and if he has the spare time, he is a very busy man.

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DEAR BRIAN,

I 'll try to answer your questions:

>If Cizek had more than one model of speakers, then why in the

>hell are they so hard to find? Where did most of the speaekers

>end up anyways?

I think that Who bought CIZEK speakers in the 70-80th was a real pure sound lover. In fact CIZEK speakers became famous in Italy 'cause of their precision in reproducing sound, especially voices and basses. Moreover they were the only flat impedance speakers ever made. I think that who've got a pair of CIZEK won't sell them; this is the reason why they are so rare. However there are speakers much more rare than CIZEK.

I seen a very impressive photo of the dual

>Cizek subwoofer, on the forums here. Does anyone have one of

>those?

Yes, I know a man (Cristiano) who lives in Veneto (Northern Italy) who sell a pair of CIZEK model one plus a pair of MG27 subwoofer for 700 euros. If you are interested I might give you his phone number.

By the way does anyone have a picture of Roy Cizek.

I tried to ask Roy Cizek's stepdaughter material about Roy; also pictures, but without success, at least till now...

>Cizek seems like such a mystery to me and I want to know more

>than what I've read here. Sorry for all of the questions, but

>I just find Cizek so fascinating.

I completely agree, i'm in line with this feeling:

>

>Sincerely,

>Brian

Sincerely,

Paolo

Fano - Italy

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Guest heykayde

Hi Brian,

Yes, I think the other posters are correct in saying that most people would not part with their Cizek's. I'm not an expert, but I actually worked there for around 5 years decades ago. All I can remember is I never met Roy, I understand he was blind and had a very acute sense of sound. It was run by a gentleman by the name of Sheldon Feinstien at the time I was there. He passed away of a heart attack on his way to work one morning and the company did not survive much longer after that. It was a small company, no more that 30 people when I was there. It was not massed produced. Everything was done by hand and tested thoroughly. Every conductor had to be within certain +/- tolerances, every crossover was inspected for proper solder joints. My best friend worked in the woofer department and would truely get upset when testing came out even slightly less than perfect. It was not unusal for woofers to be scraped saving only the magnet and starting all over again to assure a great product. I ended up working in purchasing and believe me, they had pretty strict requirements. I have the Koa wood ones and absolutely love them. They were featured on the cover of (I believe it was) High Fidelity Magazine. We were very excited about great ratings and the free advertisement. Well, I know I haven't answered all your questions, but it was nice for me to reminise for a moment. It was and exciting job.

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Hi there;

Thank you for a little insite into Cizek speakers.

It is nice to hear of high quality, individual tuning, hand workmanship.

I never heard of the speaker name Cizek until I came to this site.

No wonder Paolo loves his Cizek speakers so much.

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The first pic is of the latest from Roy before his death in 1993, Not the model 1's.

the second is from a back page of his brochue from the 1970

the third is of Roy with his youngest son in Canan Conn.

In regards to the rarety, thats probably caues he and Ron made then by hand and most went to Europe

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carl cizek said:
The first pic is of the latest from Roy before his death in 1993, Not the model 1's.

the second is from a back page of his brochue from the 1970

the third is of Roy with his youngest son in Canan Conn.

In regards to the rarety, thats probably caues he and Ron made then by hand and most went to Europe

Hi Carl and welcome!

A request--could you post a higher resolution copy of the second attachment?

I just bought a pair of Sound Windows (SW!) and am eagerly awaiting their arrival!

Kent

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DEAR BRIAN,

I 'll try to answer your questions:

>If Cizek had more than one model of speakers, then why in the

>hell are they so hard to find? Where did most of the speaekers

>end up anyways?

I think that Who bought CIZEK speakers in the 70-80th was a real pure sound lover. In fact CIZEK speakers became famous in Italy 'cause of their precision in reproducing sound, especially voices and basses. Moreover they were the only flat impedance speakers ever made. I think that who've got a pair of CIZEK won't sell them; this is the reason why they are so rare. However there are speakers much more rare than CIZEK.

I seen a very impressive photo of the dual

>Cizek subwoofer, on the forums here. Does anyone have one of

>those?

Yes, I know a man (Cristiano) who lives in Veneto (Northern Italy) who sell a pair of CIZEK model one plus a pair of MG27 subwoofer for 700 euros. If you are interested I might give you his phone number.

By the way does anyone have a picture of Roy Cizek.

I tried to ask Roy Cizek's stepdaughter material about Roy; also pictures, but without success, at least till now...

>Cizek seems like such a mystery to me and I want to know more

>than what I've read here. Sorry for all of the questions, but

>I just find Cizek so fascinating.

I completely agree, i'm in line with this feeling:

>

>Sincerely,

>Brian

Sincerely,

Paolo

Fano - Italy

P.S.: Since February 2008 I've got my own MG 27 SubWoofer. GREAT !!!

Paolo ;)

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Hi there.  I'm looking for people interest in Cizek both if wanted to purchase or info on restoring Koa speakers.  I posted the following on another thread here.  I apologize for the duplication but it seems the threads are outdated and I wanted to reach as many people as I could.
Not sure if anyone still checks this forum or this thread but I had to chime in.  I worked at Cizek in Andover, MA, then in Lawrence when they moved after Sheldon passed away.  I was there when we heard the news of his passing.  He was on his way to work and died of a heart attack during the commute.  I never met Roy but I answered the phone when Paolo called, although I never met him either.  I started out in the factory assembling and soldering the crossovers then worked in the office purchasing transistors, Peerless tweeters, etc.  The woofers were made in the factory by my best friend.  The speakers were stuffed with fiberglass, as all Cizek speakers were.  I didn't do that job but I believe it was weighed  before final assembly to make sure it was the correct amount. I remember being told it made a big difference as everything in assembly did. 

We were like a family of pretty young workers and we all loved working there at a time when everyone was so proud of their work.  I think I even have a photo of a group of us buried in my box of photos.   I even had a pair of parakeets at the time.  One was green & yellow, the other blue & white and I named them Woofer and Tweeter representing the color of the wires that went to the woofers and tweeters.  Tweeter was green and yellow, Woofer was either white or blue and another color (perhaps red?)  

I can remember when the koa's were on the front page of High Fidelity Magazine.  We were all pretty stoked about that.  Free advertising!  I may even have a copy of that page.  I know I have a copy of the retail price list of all the speakers made at the time.   The ka1's sold for $300/each ($600/pair).  This was around 40 years ago and although I got a little discount, I remember between the speakers and acrylic stands, it was a big investment when I was that young. 

I still own that pair of Koa KA1's, complete with stands that I have babied for decades.  I fell upon this forum while trying to research and figure out what to do with them. They would need some restoration but all in all they are in great shape considering their age.  One has a replacement woofer while the other still has the original but the foam ring is deteriorating.  I had replaced the tweeters at one point as the dome had collapsed.  I believe they were replaced with the original Peerless model but not positive.   I do not recall anything being done to the tweeters at the factory other than perhaps a coating added to the dome.  Pretty much everything else was assembled in house though.   It's possible that Peerless may have made them special order.  I've also replaced the foam front grills that disintegrated.  I found some cloth ones that fit fairly well attached with small strips of velcro in the corners.   I remember spinning and testing the inductors.  We also tested the resistors and capacitors that were purchased to make sure they were within the stated +/- tolerance levels.  I hot glued the parts and soldered the crossovers, which would be meticulously examined by QC to make sure there weren't any cold solder joints.  I was fortunate to be able to pick out what I thought were the most beautiful koa cabinets in stock by wetting the wood to see the grain, then I did the finishing work on them with many coatings of tung oil buffing between coats with steel wool which gave them a beautiful satin finish.  There was tiny bit of a gloss but definitely not a high shine gloss.  The tung oil really brought out the beauty of the wood. That's all they needed.  No staining was ever done on them.   The grain on the tops of my cabinets almost look like ripples of water, one a bit more than the other.  Our factory took time to match the cabinets into pairs as koa wood has a lot of variation of shades and grains.  The wood has such a great play of light in the grain.  The engineers used to use a sound room for testing to make sure everything was built and assembled to spec likening it to the fine tuning of a handmade violin.  In fact,  I believe the head engineer or his son used to build violins.  I remember he had quite the trained ear and could tell if the amount of stuffing wasn't precisely correct.   

I may post photos if I ever see any response on here.  I was considering selling and still might but now my son thinks he wants to keep them so I'm not sure. I found what appears to be actual logo plates on Ebay and may purchase while they are still available.   I'm curious if anyone knows approximately how much they are worth.  It would be hard to part with them as they bring back memories and I'm proud of the fact that I know I had a lot to do with the building of these particular speakers.  Anyone still out there?

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