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Where can I purchase the female banana end used on these? I can't seem to locate them at Part Express.

Will have to get John to clue us in. I couldn't find them either. Following Tom's lead there, no pun intended, I have seen some prefabbed sets with spades and bananas attached in various lengths. You can also buy the tool and rings and save a lot of cash in the long run.

Here is straight or angled banana/spade adapter from Amazon also available less expensively on the auction site which is a simpler solution presuming you want the quick disconnect safety of banana plugs:

http://www.amazon.com/Banana-Spade-Adapter-Speaker-Connector/dp/B006Z8NE18

Roger

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Well, after spending way too much time on this, I decided to use Sewell Deadbolts. If I decide I need the added safety of slip-type connectors I'll go Tom's route with crimp on spades.

Roger

Update: The Sewell Deadbolts are a bit large and made to fit around the post of banana plug jacks. They are nice and can be made to fit but not optimal without modification. Back to Tom's #8 rings...

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Agreed roger, it seems we can spend a lot of time trying to perfect this little connection. A big part of that is not having good and easy access to the little parts to put something together.

I am communicating with the folks at blue Jeans Cables a little about this because I am also trying to determine the best termination for the other end of a set of speaker wire that will connect to my Dynaco ST70 which has the simple screw terminal. I think they promote "keep it simple stupid'.

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I am an old mil-spec nut from way back. Years ago I designed a mil-spec wiring system (based on aircraft-wiring specifications) for Hatteras Yacht Company that used Thomas & Betts "Sta-Kon" solderless terminals and connectors. These connectors were designed to withstand constant vibration and stress, but the system is so good that I have used it for years with all of my high-fidelity connections, especially the "classic" series of AR speakers. Mil-spec T&B Sta-Kon terminals and tools are expensive, but good crimping tools and good-quality ring or spade terminals will pay off in the long run with "0" problems with connectivity. The "standard" of all mil-spec crimping tools for 16-14 ga and 12-10 ga solderless terminals is the venerable old T&B WT-145A (but there are many other tools of nearly equal quality). A new WT-145A will cost several hundred dollars ($650+), but used ones are readily available on eBay for a fraction of the cost!

--Tom Tyson

Okay, Tom,

I took the plunge on the T&B WT-145A. Thanks for your seasoned advice.

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Roger

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Me too. Used it yesterday and it's much better than the Chinese tool I used before.

Also bought the Hollingsworth H7B because I like the name ^_^

http://products.hollingsworth.com/Item/ratchet-crimp-tool-22-14-gauge-crimps-fit-fiig-window-butt/

That works great too. Don't need both though.....

And the one drawback is they only work with insulated crimps. I have a Klein general-purpose tool that's "OK" with non-insulated but no ratchet action so tough to squeeze.

-Kent

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Can I ask where you guys got em and how much they were?

I've been keeping an eye out for one in an estate/garage sale etc. Does Harbor freight have one for cheap that will work well enough I wonder?

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As Weird Al Yankovic sang; "I found it on EEEEbay"

Prices are all over the map. A new one is about $500 (seriously!--Google it). Used ones on the auction site seem to run 25 to 99 or more. Pretty sure I paid 25. Sometimes you can get a steal if you're patient. I see a couple have sold for under $10. There's always the chance of a damaged die I suppose but parts are still available.

Search for Thomas & Betts or Shur-Stake 145. There were 145A, B, C but AFAIK any will do.

Yes, Harbor Freight and others have the cheap Chinese ones that work "OK". I had one, sold it when I got the real deal. See the "Central Forge Ratcheting Crimping Tool."

-Kent

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Me too. Used it yesterday and it's much better than the Chinese tool I used before.

Also bought the Hollingsworth H7B because I like the name ^_^

http://products.hollingsworth.com/Item/ratchet-crimp-tool-22-14-gauge-crimps-fit-fiig-window-butt/

That works great too. Don't need both though.....

And the one drawback is they only work with insulated crimps. I have a Klein general-purpose tool that's "OK" with non-insulated but no ratchet action so tough to squeeze.

-Kent

Yeah, insulated mil-spec crimps work for me.

The uninsulated tool is here: http://www.tnb.com/ps/fulltilt/index.cgi?check=Y∂=ERG4002

There are other brands -- Greenlee, Ideal, etc. Not sure if they are mil-spec or if that would matter in this case.

Roger

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Will have to get John to clue us in. I couldn't find them either. Following Tom's lead there, no pun intended, I have seen some prefabbed sets with spades and bananas attached in various lengths. You can also buy the tool and rings and save a lot of cash in the long run.

Here is straight or angled banana/spade adapter from Amazon also available less expensively on the auction site which is a simpler solution presuming you want the quick disconnect safety of banana plugs:

http://www.amazon.com/Banana-Spade-Adapter-Speaker-Connector/dp/B006Z8NE18

Roger

These are the ones I use to.

Fit perfect and work flawless.

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you can find some great prices on some of this interconnect stuff on Amazon, especially if you have prime for free shipping. I looked at that link and ended up buying a different version that was a 4 pack. Don't know if the quality will be as good but I will find out I guess. Also found some good banana plugs at a good price. I had been pricing them on PE and boy did they add up fast in price. Happy for the link from Roger and repost from VM!

I have been trying to figure out a way to bi-wire some of my speakers, and that get expensive too. Anybody do that? I will probably just buy some of the Canare4S11 cable ($1.35/ft) 4 strand wire and make my own. Otherwise blueJeans cable wasn't too bad.

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you can find some great prices on some of this interconnect stuff on Amazon, especially if you have prime for free shipping. I looked at that link and ended up buying a different version that was a 4 pack. Don't know if the quality will be as good but I will find out I guess. Also found some good banana plugs at a good price. I had been pricing them on PE and boy did they add up fast in price. Happy for the link from Roger and repost from VM!

I have been trying to figure out a way to bi-wire some of my speakers, and that get expensive too. Anybody do that? I will probably just buy some of the Canare4S11 cable ($1.35/ft) 4 strand wire and make my own. Otherwise blueJeans cable wasn't too bad.

David,

JMHO, but i-wiring is kind of a waste, bi-amping on the other hand has some advantages.

Roger

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