Carlspeak Posted July 8, 2010 Report Share Posted July 8, 2010 The link below takes you to a thread over at audiokarma.org. The thread contains a 10 pg. downloadable document detailing the mod.http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/showthread.php?t=308869Basically, the KLH-17 Plus is a high quality monitor loudspeaker comprised of an ultra-smooth Fountek ribbon tweeter, German designed HiVi kevlar impregnated paper cone bass-mid and custom fabricated baffle board.Picture of the mirror imaged pair....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyC Posted July 8, 2010 Report Share Posted July 8, 2010 Basically, the KLH-17 Plus is a high quality monitor loudspeaker comprised of an ultra-smooth Fountek ribbon tweeter, German designed HiVi kevlar impregnated paper cone bass-mid and custom fabricated baffle board.Picture of the mirror imaged pair.......Very pretty, Carl. I'm sure they sound great, but I'm not seeing any "KLH 17" in them. You could call them "KLH-17 Minus KLH-17"! Just kidding...I know existing cabinets are valuable to speaker builders and tinkerers. Nice cabinets are not easy to build and expensive to purchase.Roy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlspeak Posted July 8, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 8, 2010 I just give the customer what they ask for. Very pretty, Carl. I'm sure they sound great, but I'm not seeing any "KLH 17" in them. You could call them "KLH-17 Minus KLH-17"! Just kidding...I know existing cabinets are valuable to speaker builders and tinkerers. Nice cabinets are not easy to build and expensive to purchase.Roy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zilch Posted July 8, 2010 Report Share Posted July 8, 2010 Good work, Carl!90° horizontal constant directivity extending through the top octave, looks like, "moderately wide" by my definition, and the vertical nulls fall outside the 9° listening window.The image was perfectly centered with a wide soundstage and a sparkling clarity which astounded me. I had not heard this kind of clarity from numerous speakers I’ve worked on over a number of years having more convention[al] dome type tweeters.Modern domes have excellent clarity, but cannot match the horizontal dispersion you achieved using these ribbons.[is there an eWave variant and a shootout in the offing...? ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlspeak Posted July 8, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 8, 2010 [is there an eWave variant and a shootout in the offing...? ]Perhaps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlspeak Posted August 9, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 9, 2010 Good work, Carl![is there an eWave variant and a shootout in the offing...? ]Yes, it happened and the 17 Plus's were well received by the large group of audiopiles present. The eWaves - not so much. You should try a plus mod if you have any spare 17 cabs left laying around. I'll get you the baffle boards, if needed. Once you've heard their clarity, you may decide to start a new mod-thread for those with a little more change in their pockets to spare for significantly improved sound over the e-waves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zilch Posted August 9, 2010 Report Share Posted August 9, 2010 Audiophiles do not rock.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlspeak Posted August 9, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 9, 2010 Audiophiles do not rock.... That statement is akin to the infamous "White men can't jump". We've got some rockers in the group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zilch Posted August 9, 2010 Report Share Posted August 9, 2010 Oh?Well, crank 'em up and see who dances.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlspeak Posted August 9, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 9, 2010 Cranking isn't necessary to enjoy good music. C'mon Z, all those sophisticated measurements to create overly loud rock music? Seems like a waste of talent to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zilch Posted August 10, 2010 Report Share Posted August 10, 2010 Spectral accuracy is independent of musical genre, and complexity is most revealing of this quality; getting rock right is the more difficult task.Realistic levels of most any genre are not "polite," and equal loudness contours are always part of the formula. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlspeak Posted August 10, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 10, 2010 Spectral accuracy is independent of musical genre, and complexity is most revealing of this quality; getting rock right is the more difficult task.Realistic levels of most any genre are not "polite," and equal loudness contours are always part of the formula. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundminded Posted August 11, 2010 Report Share Posted August 11, 2010 Spectral accuracy is independent of musical genre, and complexity is most revealing of this quality; getting rock right is the more difficult task.Realistic levels of most any genre are not "polite," and equal loudness contours are always part of the formula.We had a contributor who posted here and was very enthusiastic. That is until he had his hearing tested and learned he was completely deaf above 2 khz. I have to wonder how many golden eared audiophiles have damaged their hearing permanently and severely by exposing themselves to literally ear shattering sound levels the way this guy did. I always thought it ironic that Edgar Villchur went into the hearing aid business after he left the speaker business. I wonder how many of his customers for his second products acquired the need by abusing his first products. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shacky Posted August 11, 2010 Report Share Posted August 11, 2010 I did not get to hear these but I did get to hear Carl's pipe speakers last week while dropping off some Thiel drivers for repair. My god did they sound fantastic! I can vouch for Carl's ear for sonics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlspeak Posted August 11, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 11, 2010 I did not get to hear these but I did get to hear Carl's pipe speakers last week while dropping off some Thiel drivers for repair. My god did they sound fantastic! I can vouch for Carl's ear for sonics.Below is a pic taken at last Saturday's CAS meeting showing the group taking in the sounds of my "Poor Plumber's Pluto's". Here's link to more info.http://techtalk.parts-express.com/showthread.php?t=219004 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JKent Posted August 12, 2010 Report Share Posted August 12, 2010 I did not get to hear these but I did get to hear Carl's pipe speakers last week while dropping off some Thiel drivers for repair. My god did they sound fantastic! I can vouch for Carl's ear for sonics.Yikes! Glad they sound fantastic because they are FUGLY! Blue Man Group, meet Mummenschanz! Kent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlspeak Posted August 12, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2010 I think the current term for it is: 'thinking outside the BOX". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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