Yada, Thanks for the personal message. Hey, forget the stuff about "taking me up on my offer" as I thought you were Ed246 who wants to come over and listen to my AR-9's. If you ARE in Jersey, come on over. I meant what I said about my wife and two daughters, each one wackier than the next. Kind of like "wholewheat" wackos though, instead of the Charles Manson type if you catch my drift. Harmless, but nuts. I appreciate your candor about those "New" Advent's. Maybe I wont chase them too hard. I'll try and get them loaned out for awhile before I make a decision, although the right side of MY hearing graph looks like Niagara Falls. 25 yrs of driving around on -135 jet tankers will do that to a pair of ears (only 5 yrs to go, I'll be STONE DEAF when I retire at 55). Probably can't even HEAR 10kHz at this point in time, so a lot of my opinions are indeed suspect. Actually, 12 years ago I tore right through a pair of AR-5's trying to hear 10kHz. Got a test disc, and everytime the guy said, "And now a 10kHz tone....", I kept on making it louder and replaying it. I finally heard something alright. I heard the tweeters departing the scene!!! Thanks for the words, Toasted Almond