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[Carlspeak]

The link below takes you to a thread over at audiokarma.org. The thread contains a 10 pg. downloadable document detailing the mod.

http://www.audiokarm...ad.php?t=308869

Basically, the KLH-17 Plus is a high quality monitor loudspeaker comprised of an ultra-smooth Fountek ribbon tweeter, German designed HiVi kevlar impregnated paper cone bass-mid and custom fabricated baffle board.

Picture of the mirror imaged pair.......

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[RoyC]

Basically, the KLH-17 Plus is a high quality monitor loudspeaker comprised of an ultra-smooth Fountek ribbon tweeter, German designed HiVi kevlar impregnated paper cone bass-mid and custom fabricated baffle board.

Picture of the mirror imaged pair.......

Very pretty, Carl. I'm sure they sound great, but I'm not seeing any "KLH 17" in them. You could call them "KLH-17 Minus KLH-17"!
Just kidding...I know existing cabinets are valuable to speaker builders and tinkerers. Nice cabinets are not easy to build and expensive to purchase.

Roy

[Carlspeak]

I just give the customer what they ask for.

Very pretty, Carl. I'm sure they sound great, but I'm not seeing any "KLH 17" in them. You could call them "KLH-17 Minus KLH-17"!
Just kidding...I know existing cabinets are valuable to speaker builders and tinkerers. Nice cabinets are not easy to build and expensive to purchase.

Roy

[Zilch]

Good work, Carl!

90° horizontal constant directivity extending through the top octave, looks like, "moderately wide" by my definition, and the vertical nulls fall outside the 9° listening window.

The image was perfectly centered with a wide soundstage and a sparkling clarity which astounded me. I had not heard this kind of clarity from numerous speakers I’ve worked on over a number of years having more convention[al] dome type tweeters.

Modern domes have excellent clarity, but cannot match the horizontal dispersion you achieved using these ribbons.

[Is there an eWave variant and a shootout in the offing...? ]

[Carlspeak]

[Is there an eWave variant and a shootout in the offing...? ]

Perhaps

[Carlspeak]

Good work, Carl!



[Is there an eWave variant and a shootout in the offing...? ]

Yes, it happened and the 17 Plus's were well received by the large group of audiopiles present. The eWaves - not so much. You should try a plus mod if you have any spare 17 cabs left laying around. I'll get you the baffle boards, if needed. Once you've heard their clarity, you may decide to start a new mod-thread for those with a little more change in their pockets to spare for significantly improved sound over the e-waves.

[Zilch]

Audiophiles do not rock....

[Carlspeak]

Audiophiles do not rock....

That statement is akin to the infamous "White men can't jump". We've got some rockers in the group.

[Zilch]

Oh?

Well, crank 'em up and see who dances....

[Carlspeak]

Cranking isn't necessary to enjoy good music. C'mon Z, all those sophisticated measurements to create overly loud rock music? Seems like a waste of talent to me.

[Zilch]

Spectral accuracy is independent of musical genre, and complexity is most revealing of this quality; getting rock right is the more difficult task.

Realistic levels of most any genre are not "polite," and equal loudness contours are always part of the formula.

[Carlspeak]

Spectral accuracy is independent of musical genre, and complexity is most revealing of this quality; getting rock right is the more difficult task.

Realistic levels of most any genre are not "polite," and equal loudness contours are always part of the formula.

[soundminded]

Spectral accuracy is independent of musical genre, and complexity is most revealing of this quality; getting rock right is the more difficult task.

Realistic levels of most any genre are not "polite," and equal loudness contours are always part of the formula.

We had a contributor who posted here and was very enthusiastic. That is until he had his hearing tested and learned he was completely deaf above 2 khz. I have to wonder how many golden eared audiophiles have damaged their hearing permanently and severely by exposing themselves to literally ear shattering sound levels the way this guy did. I always thought it ironic that Edgar Villchur went into the hearing aid business after he left the speaker business. I wonder how many of his customers for his second products acquired the need by abusing his first products.

[Shacky]

I did not get to hear these but I did get to hear Carl's pipe speakers last week while dropping off some Thiel drivers for repair. My god did they sound fantastic! I can vouch for Carl's ear for sonics.

[Carlspeak]

I did not get to hear these but I did get to hear Carl's pipe speakers last week while dropping off some Thiel drivers for repair. My god did they sound fantastic! I can vouch for Carl's ear for sonics.

Below is a pic taken at last Saturday's CAS meeting showing the group taking in the sounds of my "Poor Plumber's Pluto's". Here's link to more info.
http://techtalk.part...ad.php?t=219004

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[JKent]

I did not get to hear these but I did get to hear Carl's pipe speakers last week while dropping off some Thiel drivers for repair. My god did they sound fantastic! I can vouch for Carl's ear for sonics.

Yikes! Glad they sound fantastic because they are FUGLY! Blue Man Group, meet Mummenschanz!
Kent

[Carlspeak]

I think the current term for it is: 'thinking outside the BOX".